Misadventures in Dating

There are different levels of traders.. and different levels of prestige and you get added points for a partner. If he makes partner at an impressive age.. you’ve got an even bigger winner.

Can you provide a breakdown of salaries and bonuses for these jobs?

@Casual Dater
This just makes the appeal of finance guys far more confusing.

The pay scale for associate lawyers is $160k (first year) to $280k (8th year), plus bonuses. I’m guessing our bonuses are probably lower, $35k-70k, and our debt load high ($150-200k) but we’re still in the banker/trader range.

Most big firms have profits per partner in the $1-3 million range, meaning there’s some partners making $500k or $750k, and some making $4-6 million, and a lot in the middle.

Any ideas as to why there’s no je ne sais juris?

@Casual Dater

You’ve inspired me to start a blog on finance chicks.

http://financegf.wordpress.com/

@Casual Dater

Are the analysts/bankers/traders entry-level positions the same way you can go be a junior legal associate straight out of law school?

I think this is a better place to finish off our discussion that started in Harper’s blog. I’m going to have to appologize to you because I actually thought you’re just a horny woman (no offence in all seriousness). Now that I realized you’re an IB, your comments make sense and are duly noted.

Also, I really do take pride in what I do, I mean who wouldn’t? I’ve got clients all over the world telling me that what I make is godsent! These kinds of comments about my work to me are the highest form of flattery and I really couldn’t care less if you think I’m “full of shit”.

Lastly, I do take offence of being called “IT”. No, I’m not “in IT”. Computer Science students from a community college are “in IT”. You see, the difference is that people who are “in IT” are the ones that you call when your Outlook stops working. I’m the person you come asking to “make something that when I press a button it’ll do these millions of things, take over the world and make a ton of money” all at the same time. And chances are I already have something like that.

In any case, the colourful language and pointing fingers aside, yes I have met interns(!) who told me they’re “in finance” (or better yet, Investment Banking) but there are times when one of these same interns turns out to be a WAY better (smarter, younger, etc.) than most traders on the very same desk.

P.S. Haven’t tried the dildo advice yet – I prefer the real thing instead. Scoring a date, you see, isn’t really a problem for “an IT chick” that can pull off stilettos and outdrink you 1:2. But you’re mildly entertaining, I’ll be reading you

@Casual Dater

So what’s the typical amount of time it takes to go from being an analyst to one of the “real” finance positions?

(I grew up in a part of the country where the closest thing to the finance industry was pay day advance, so I really have no clue how any of that stuff works.)

@Alexandra

Guys don’t want a girl who can drink that much. You’re probably either already chubby, or on the fast track.

PS: You mean you can out drink him 2:1. Good thing you’re not a mathematician, or planning to rip off a bank Office Space/Superman 3 style.

How comfortably can a person live on 200k a year in New York?! I can barely survive on that in the “south” where the cost of living is WAY cheaper. Just curious…

@RSSNGirl

I’ve lived in Manhattan on less than $30k and did just fine.

Right now I’m living on $160k, have a good sized 1BR with a 100XX zip code, and am pretty comfortable. I can’t go around bleeding money or anything, but that’s largely because I still have ~$2k in loan payments every month.

@BL1Y Do you have a car? I would presume in NYC most wouldn’t need one, seeing as how there is accessible public transportation, so the car, the gas, and the insurance takes a good chunk out of my expenses.

@RSSNGirl
No car. How much are you spending a year on the payments, gas and insurance if you’re only barely able to scrape by on $200k?

@BL1Y
Well, I have an expensive taste…including cars. My car was 60k, my insurance is about $1300/yr, and gas is about $300-400/mo. I guess 200k is also before taxes; single female, I get a good chunk of my money taken out…

I don’t really see anything wrong with thinking I’m “fin-ance” while creating financial software and earning 400K a year. Not to use/make models is a choice not inability.

And I’m sorry to disappoint you, Casual Dater, but I really am not interested. You fully live up to the general IB stereotype – these guys have two modes: in conquest and off. And it seems that you apply that to your personal life too (hey, if that suits you, by all means!) and I just don’t feel like being just another name of that list of yours to be crossed off However I do think you’d be scores of fun to chat with but I guess that’s why you’ve got your blog so that’ll probably do.

P.S. I was wondering whether you guys will point out my ratio “mistake” or not but I guess you’re not the type of people to let even a minor detail slip through! Good job. Though I’m neither chubby nor on my way to that – drinking’s simply “in my blood”, if you will Though I will make a note of this, I’ve been guilty for most of the winter for not exercising much. Oh well, spring’s here and that means a wide variety of sports awaits!

@RSSNGirl
Don’t you live in Texas, where there’s no state income tax?

@BL1Y
Yes, but federal tax takes good care of that…after social security, fed taxes, and medicare crap I am left w/ about uhm….55-60% of my actual income… I don’t know how sales taxes vary by state, which also includes in all purchases but the food and it’s about ~8.3%. Scraping by for me is because I like $1000 shoes & vacations to Europe, I just have an expensive taste. If it were 200K after taxes, I’d be better…maybe. Anyway, was just curious.

@Casual Dater
Ah, here we go. It seems that it boils down to our definitions of “finance”. And I’ll be honest with you I’m not that eager to show off that title anyway – the reason I even mentioned it in Harper’s blog was to indicate that I am part of the crazy hours (though not nearly as crazy as you pull) work environment and thus don’t have time to marry anyone (despite what you have suggested prior to my comment).

I was always under the impression that the only females that bachelor parties involve are strippers. But if you want to party, my next project takes me to Toronto around the same time.

I find NYC a peculiar place. It’s one of the few cities where being a physician or dentist isn’t really respected. People go ‘oh you are only a doctor, which honestly surprises me considering we sacrifice the most in time and money to get established in our professions. No internist, or specialist ( I’m talking in your 30s) in NYC is making much more than 200k if that. No bonuses, and throw in being on call weekends and some weeknights. Makes for a hard working life. I don’t know much about the finance boys and girls but it’s like a foreign world from
Medicine. We will never be making 400 or 500k, it’s not realistic. And finance dudes tend to want women in fashion, arts, advertising, law, not in medicine. Just an observation

@helena
NYC feels the same way about its lawyers. I’d try a different market, but I have NYC sized loans and so I need an NYC sized paycheck to pay them off.

Very good, casual dater. You are an equal opportunity dater to all females hot n wet .

Vigorous as in the gal can survive an army bootcamp training camp , vigorous as in she can benchpress 200lb? I’m going to guess you mean a different example of ‘vigorous’ for your ladies

Vigorous=Not British

@BL1Y
Hey BL1Y, that’s a somewhat unfair comment about Brit lassies is it not?

Now explain how Brit gals are less prudish than American gals?

CASUAL, You can’t be serious. I guess you’re confusing “repressed” with more open and in touch….British guys are the same way. I’ve had my time with them,lol.

can’t touch a latin woman when it comes to sexuality.